Storm11
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I understand that this is something you are passionate about and wish to see that the Jedi become the best that they can be. I ask you to keep in mind that what I'm about to post comes form someone who has made it all the way up the ranks in the Jedi in the past and saw many solutions and problems arise due problems such as "Should Jedi have trooper rankings", as well as playing up the ladder on the trooper and working along side Jedi. I understand that you are trying to push for a revival of the Jedi and I am all for it, but I still have concerns on as to how.
I read over the document and as it is as of now It has some good and bad. It is largely what Jedi was in the past where Jedi could affiliate with a battalion and would operate with that battalion during events and could be placed in charge of squads or even XO of a battalion I believe that they should be able to do this still and agree with it. -- My BIG concern with the document that you have linked with that in its current state is that it makes it seem that the only way to go up the Jedi ladder is with the clones permission -- Jedi is its own entity and should have the option to not be reliant off of being affiliated or linked to a battalion in order to rank up, while the document states that is not the case there is no supporting evidence to that. Let me be clear -- I'm not saying that using it as a metric as to when someone should be able to become a knight and for those Jedi who wish to be affiliated with a battalion and are heavily invested in the battalion, their contribution should be weighed -- I'm saying it should not be the only metric and like wise should not be a requirement. In the past many people played Jedi specifically to avoid that sort of structure and wanted to focus specifically on Jedi RP, I believe that should remain an option for the players who wish to do so.
In the past we have had Jedi Generals and Commanders be Jedi who had the ability to FM but it was always made a point differentiate that those were titles that came with responsibility, but were not ranks. I do think the implementation of "Tiers" Of Padawans, knights, and masters is a good idea. In the past Knight and Master were largely unobtainable ranks to achieve and I think that the implementation of tiers is a good way to show progression, it gives people a chance to see themselves advance and gives something obtainable to work towards; however, it is a bit unclear to me if you are trying to say "This is basically the equivalent rank of this for Jedi" or if you are trying to say "If you are a Jedi Master you should carry the weight of a 2LT for overseeing the clones"
Going off the paragraph above, having a Jedi a "rank" in a battalion seems highly unnecessary If we have the tiered based structure. I think CO's / XOs should be able to assign a Jedi responsibilities within the squad or appoint them in charge of a squad or leading the battalion during the operation, but I fail to see what giving them a direct rank really does. If you are worried about 'who will lead the battalion during events or rp if the co or xo isn't on' Its been my experience with this community that it quickly will either get delegated to someone who WANTS to take charge, or it will become a cooperative group effort. While the troopers technically have a set in stone rank structure, I've found that in reality that the battalions that tend to be more cooperative and work more as a team tend to stick around longer, have a higher performance, and be more respected within the community. This is largely why I would rather push for giving a Jedi to be giving responsibilities or positions within their battalion rather than a direct rank. If a CO said "Treat this guy as if he was a sgt" To his units I would have no problem with that compared to "This guy IS a SGT within our unit". The implication of the latter is that it gives the Jedi access to all the trooper specific RP both active and passive. Troopers do deserve their own RP that the Jedi cannot step on, much like how the Jedi will have RP that the troopers will not be able to step on. With this I'm not saying treat Jedi as if they are a second class citizen by any means, rather that they will have different roles on the server. An easy example is if there is a character in RP that says "Let me speak to your battalions highest ranking officer" I feel that unless a jedi is specifically designated as that person that RP should go to a clone.
As I've stated prior I am largely a fan of the suggestions you have put forward, The topic of Jedi ranks has been one of conflict for as long as PR has had Jedi, and I would be doing both you and the community a disservice by not posting my concerns based off of the issues I have seen in the past.
Well spoken indeed. Absolutely pokes some holes in what i haven't made very clear and can see a fair amount of confusion. I suppose what I was trying to get at more was If a Knight is = to a sergeant. Its not something the clones need to recognize, but the time and work it takes to get to knight is something that should parallel a trooper going to sergeant. Reflecting more on how a lot of your guys ranks means a lot more than the average servers would be a good way to reiterate this. As i've seen servers where people pick up sergeant off attendance and just being there doing nothing, a concern grown from my previous experience. And more me making the parallels of the PR standards for hitting sergeant should be the same for hitting Knight.
I am starting to see exactly what you mean though, regardless of Jedi rank if we disassociate that from the jedi Order to the battalion and make getting knowledge from the CO an aspect, but not a deal breaker to move up in the Jedi Order;
Though I have throughout this whole article stated Battalions should give their Jedi Commissions on how much they want them in charge of troopers and have that be a separate aspect. I do see how it was tied to my equivalent chart. and how that led to confusion. Did make a few contradictions there without realizing it.