RP and PR

[Holden]

From personal experience, the moment I joined PR I was told that it was a semi-serious server, and following that line people would be mostly OOC in-ship. Not gonna lie, I'm the kind of person that would prefer a serious rp anytime, but at that moment it didn't really matter compared to how good the community is compared to most of the others, but the turn of what we are now to a serious (er) RP has to really work out, which means it has to be natural, from head to toe. Yes, people should OOC at the MINIMUM and just act as normal "idle" clones/jedi, probably using the discord more, even as a way of going off character sometimes (we all know that being insanely serious in RP is not easy, even more if you run out of things to do), and myself as a Jedi Knight now, knowing that people want to change, will do my best to make it so our RP in ship is the most IC as I can, but it has to be something that is shown to players from the start. I am enphazising this for the sole reason that some people that join PR (and we have to consider this) have never joined an RP server in their life, and have little to no idea of what they should do or that they even have a right way to act, and being an example at their training by explaining to them what do we mean with out of character conversations, in character conversations and showing them what is RP by doing their CIT seriously for example, calling them by ranks and demanding respect for their superiors is something that I see as essential for a serious RP to work (we could take the simple, but true statement of saluting that someone used in this thread), even if your superior is your best friend. Titles and ranks exist, and they are there for a reason.
This is in no way a lecture, and I am far from being a specialist in RP, but being the example is the best way to teach, HAVING an example is the best way to learn, and I strongly believe in first impressions, as they usually decide how you think of people and things, also how you react to them. I have no idea if this whole topic will be taken seriously, but I for one will start to be more of an example if that is really what the community wants to work on, since I myself have had this interest and thought for some time already.

 

[[PR] ProDTigerGE]

Oh boy the rant I could go on about RP...

 

[Trigger]

Right “serious” aren’t we semi serious

We are serious. Doesn't matter if it in an event or not. Only people who tell you other wise are other minges.

 

[[PR] ProDTigerGE]

Project Renegade claims to be a Semi-Serious RP server when in fact everything is handeled for the most part out of RP. I personally prefer Serious RP to any type of RP, so I am going to bring up some points that I believe are controversial.

1. Staff Sits
As I may be a Gamemaster myself, I believe the way staff go about issues are very innapropriate, unprofessional, and very out of character. I come from communities where Staff are a last resort. In these communities staff are..
- Strict
- Polite
- Responsible yet Respectful
- Wise and Knowledgeable
- A Last Resort
The last point define Staff for me. In a RP server, Staff should be a Last Resort. The situation is always handled in character until it is exhausted and out of hand. For instance, if a CT is RDMing, instead of a Staff Member noclipping across the map, physgunning the CT, then kicking him, the Staff would ignore it unless Shock / Security is unavailable or Shock have exhausted resources on that CT. The Shock / Security would then handle the situation IN CHARACTER the whole time. They would approach, apprehend, detain the CT, and walk him to a Cell and put their RFA in comms and the amount of time they would be in. Yes this usually doesn’t involve arrest sticks. And here staff would not be involved unless it became a constant issue where the player was relogging and repeating the offense continually.

2. NLR
Okay, let’s all be honest. A player dies, their offenses and stuff doesn’t transfer over. Oh, SGT Bob shot PVT Billy yet he had an AOS on him. Quick run to bunks and arrest him: NO! That’s so stupid and pointless that I literally cannot think of an explanation for that besides laziness!! If someone dies their offenses don’t pass over, if someone dies you literally ignore it. No, I don’t think dieing should be a hard PK either because at that point there is no point in ranking up.

3. Minges
Minges are a problem and a lot of them fill up Jedi, Navy, and the Army. We have minges yes they are a thing. As of now some of them are banned and trying to appeal. I think we can sift out minges by making trainings actual trainings, which some COs do well, making promotions more of an earned thing versus “Oh, PVT Dingy, you were in an event *Throws Grey Square* Your promoted cool..” make troopers get recognized and earn their stuff! Having something to do during times there aren’t events. Events are good and we do not need them 24/7. There have been times where I couldn’t wait for the event to be over so I could do something on the normal map with someone else. However while I am doing something else, many players could be bored. I think we can work on an RP FRIENDLY thing for players to engage in during on ship times.

4. In Character
Voice chat and comms should be in character period. OOC is for OOC, everything else is IN CHARACTER even the lounge! Seriously it’s not hard! If your walking around and see a friend, say hi, talk IN CHARACTER, refer to events as deployments or missions, etc..

Overall I think there’s a lot of things that can change both on the Staffs side and on the Players side to make this an actual serious server. Yes, downtime is good but not 24/7.

 

[Antloin]

Well, an actual SeriousRP on Star Wars RP server isn't possible, trust me, if you put a text "SeriousRP" on your server's name, it won't work, really, even if you force people to be serious and actually roleplay, it won't happen, why? Well, each and every SWRP server, including our server, is treated like a "usual" SWRP server, nothing is really serious around here, people don't even know how to ACTUALLY roleplay and just be a good boy.

Trust me, you can't turn SWRP into a SeriousRP server, even if its Semi-Serious during non-events, nothing can stop new people very often joining the server and messing around, putting a Clockwork probably won't work as well.

 

[[PR] ProDTigerGE]

Well, an actual SeriousRP on Star Wars RP server isn't possible, trust me, if you put a text "SeriousRP" on your server's name, it won't work, really, even if you force people to be serious and actually roleplay, it won't happen, why? Well, each and every SWRP server, including our server, is treated like a "usual" SWRP server, nothing is really serious around here, people don't even know how to ACTUALLY roleplay and just be a good boy.

Trust me, you can't turn SWRP into a SeriousRP server, even if its Semi-Serious during non-events, nothing can stop new people very often joining the server and messing around, putting a Clockwork probably won't work as well.

That's not true. Maybe for you, but not for the rest of Garry's Mod.

 

[Antloin]

That's not true. Maybe for you, but not for the rest of Garry's Mod.

Well so far, I haven't seen any Serious SWRP server, I am not sure about the Renegade though, but I am already starting to have doubts.

 

[Ion]

Well, an actual SeriousRP on Star Wars RP server isn't possible, trust me, if you put a text "SeriousRP" on your server's name, it won't work, really, even if you force people to be serious and actually roleplay, it won't happen, why? Well, each and every SWRP server, including our server, is treated like a "usual" SWRP server, nothing is really serious around here, people don't even know how to ACTUALLY roleplay and just be a good boy.

Trust me, you can't turn SWRP into a SeriousRP server, even if its Semi-Serious during non-events, nothing can stop new people very often joining the server and messing around, putting a Clockwork probably won't work as well.

People messing around is going to happen no matter what. The thing is people need to know the difference between minging and being semi serious in those situations.

 

[[PR] ProDTigerGE]

People messing around is going to happen no matter what. The thing is people need to know the difference between minging and being semi serious in those situations.

“People messing around is going to happen no matter what.” That is not always the case. Although extremely hard to do, it has been done before believe it or not.

 

[Sir Aldo Zaldo]

From my experience you're hard pushed to have a solid week with not one minge joining. I understand in a perfect world we'd all RP constantly and wouldn't even need staff (only GMs for events duh) since no one would ever break any rules, but sadly, this isn't that. I think we can all just try and stay IC as much as we can, and if shit goes wrong it does. This server isn't just defined by its playerbase roleplaying ability, people join and stay (including me) for the community and the unique shit and the excellent event planning and execution. I think right now the RP situation certainly isn't the best but it's not a cause for concern, if we all do our part to stay IC a little more we'll be sorted, that's my two cents anyway.

 

[Ion]

From my experience you're hard pushed to have a solid week with not one minge joining. I understand in a perfect world we'd all RP constantly and wouldn't even need staff (only GMs for events duh) since no one would ever break any rules, but sadly, this isn't that. I think we can all just try and stay IC as much as we can, and if shit goes wrong it does. This server isn't just defined by its playerbase roleplaying ability, people join and stay (including me) for the community and the unique shit and the excellent event planning and execution. I think right now the RP situation certainly isn't the best but it's not a cause for concern, if we all do our part to stay IC a little more we'll be sorted, that's my two cents anyway.

Yeah I liked RP in old PR days, it was alot better

 

[Trooper15]

Yeah I personally try to stay in character most of the time, but it is really fun to talk to other people about legends, and other cool shit (or just talk to people in general) while yes I am in my oppinion very awkward on, and off the game (you can tell this because I sometimes stutter or just cant speak well at moments) I find that some of my most memorable friendships on the server server has started because we started talking about shit we like, and because of that, it is something I think should always have a place in PR because

 

[Rafi Bistshock]

Keep in mind, we're on a military vessel and we are essentially a slave army with no rights or outside connections. The lounge is strange because military ships do not have bars on them. Doing things like getting drunk, selling deathsticks, etc should be non existent because there would be no way for us to procure them and also as clones who were raised from birth to fight would also have little to no interest in such things. As for sabotaging equipment, that would not be impossible but considering the indoctrination clones go through and the loyalty that is instilled in them, traitor clones should be exceedingly rare. RPing is fine, but it needs to be believable RP for a clone to do.

I'm not someone very good with words, but this pretty much sums it up. If you want to RP right, do realistic RP. Don't go out of your way to do things you wouldn't really see happening in the clone army. I know people use what Riddick said "Lore is my bitch", but if you want to promote RP, this is the way. It's not that hard, and it's much better in my opinion.

 

[Rafi Bistshock]

you cant stop average players from not going through with Order 66. If their RP character didnt execute it, you cant force them. Everyone should have a choice, regardless of rank,

Clones have an embedded chip. They don't have a choice...

 

[Ion]

Clones have an embedded chip. They don't have a choice...

What you fail to realize is many clones got their chips removed through unofficial surgery. For example my 187th was a surgeon that removed the chips from a few clones (because in PR lore, we all witnessed Five's death, not just shock)

 

[Sharp]

 

[Archer]

I remember when Ion discovered Quinn's w

What you fail to realize is many clones got their chips removed through unofficial surgery. For example my 187th was a surgeon that removed the chips from a few clones

First off, no, many clones did not. Second off, why the fuck would you know about them

 

[Trigger]

First off, no, many clones did not. Second off, why the fuck would you know about them

Yeah the only way you would know about them is if an official event was held in a which a GM aloud you to hear information about the Chip. Otherwise, you are just meta gaming.

 

[Ion]

Yeah the only way you would know about them is if an official event was held in a which a GM aloud you to hear information about the Chip. Otherwise, you are just meta gaming.

In PR lore, we all saw Five's death. It was Riddick's event

 

[Archer]

Just because you saw his death does not grant you knowledge of everything leading up to that, to literally everyone else it would just appear that he was crazy