Archer's Staff Reapplication
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Evan
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I will still -1 your application because I don't believe that you and a staff rank are a good mix, both for your health and for the server's health. You have always been a good person when I talk with you and interact with you, but the statements you have made, the actions you have taken, and the dependencies you developed on PR as a staff member seemed destructive and on occasion, toxic. If you are dead set on helping the server, I would suggest an alternate route other than staff, perhaps hosting trainings or finding ways to increase player activity in between events? I hold no Ill will towards you, but your effect on the staff team, and the staff team's effect on you seem counterproductive to all parties involved. The people who are +1ing might be looking at you as Archer as a person, not Archer as a staff member, you make a much better member of the community than a member of the staff team.
I will still -1 your application because I don't believe that you and a staff rank are a good mix, both for your health and for the server's health. You have always been a good person when I talk with you and interact with you, but the statements you have made, the actions you have taken, and the dependencies you developed on PR as a staff member seemed destructive and on occasion, toxic. If you are dead set on helping the server, I would suggest an alternate route other than staff, perhaps hosting trainings or finding ways to increase player activity in between events? I hold no Ill will towards you, but your effect on the staff team, and the staff team's effect on you seem counterproductive to all parties involved. The people who are +1ing might be looking at you as Archer as a person, not Archer as a staff member, you make a much better member of the community than a member of the staff team.
Sharp
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Archer
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I do not deny the damage I have done in the past, but part of what I wish to show and prove is my capability as a staff member. I believe as a moderator, I will be able to do good for the server.
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Ya Boi Sierron
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Do what?
Evan
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It is not your capability as a moderator that I am worried about. You have shown us who you are as a staff member. And if doing good for the server is your ultimate goal, then you don't need to apply for staff to accomplish that. You can do a lot of good for the server as you are now, more than if you were a staff member. It is the strength and unity of the community that makes a server great, help be that strength, help bring about that unity .
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From flare, who no longer has access to the forums
Ohh boy. This is a pretty interesting thread.
Archer is someone I've had quite a few issues with in the past; what feels like hundreds of mini-conflicts and a love-hate relationship. That being said, I have quite a few opinions on him.
During the Jedi shenanigans a year ago where it was looking like we were all about to tear each other a new one- there is one thing most people couldn't deny. Archer is a capable individual. Most of our issues stemmed from the fact that he had too many responsibilities, he was Admin, Grandmaster, High Command, Shadow Company CO, Head Recon, and a Republic Commando. There's no fucking way a guy like Archer can divvy up his 4-5 hours a day and manage all of that.
I'll be honest, I don't remember much of those times. I've moved on. It's ancient history at this point, but I think the things I remember most is that Archer, back then- for all his faults, had good intentions. He wanted the best for the server, he wanted the best for Jedi, he wanted the best for Shadow Company. He wanted to showcase his capabilities as a leader and player- but there was one thing holding Archer back from actually helping out all of those positions.
Archer is stubborn, it's both his blessing and his curse. Archer will run himself into a wall- sometimes pursuing the wrong solution to a problem until more than two people tell him that what he's doing isn't helping, he's done things that he regrets the next day. Yet with that stubbornness, some genuinely good things have happened for the server. Not many, but a few things. That being said, I really respect the fact that Archer has decided to pursue Staff once more- with almost all the cards stacked against him.
Archer reached Admin back then for a reason. Whatever that reason is, I can trust that he was at least a competent Moderator, otherwise he would've never gotten past Moderator. It's obvious at some point- he did some exceptional work.
I might as well address a few of the things in this forum with my own perspective.
Archer being manipulative? I have never experienced it. To put it bluntly- Archer has always been blunt, straightforward and to the point. Archer for better or worse has almost always tried to play the mediator in any single conflict I've seen him involved in.
Did Archer drive a few situations to his advantage using his authority and power? Yeah, he did. I mean at one point Shadow Company was discount SF, at the dismay of SF.
Archer is destructive, and on occasion, toxic. Perhaps so- but I think something to note is people can undergo some good positive change in only a few months. Personalities and life attitudes can change in weeks. People are tricky and hard to fully understand- that’s the entire thing of Human Psychology. Things can easily influence people, whether subtly or noticeably.
Archer is inactive. This leads me into my next point that almost nobody has had the opportunity to see if Archer has changed. Why? He has not been on as much as he should be if he is attempting to obtain a Staff position. If you check Gametracker he has 21.28 hours in the two months the Gametracker has been up. Not even a day of activity.
Making a positive difference without Staff Powers. Right now, I’m asking myself, what other avenues can Archer take in terms of helping out the server. I think he has almost exhausted every single route of expansion except for rejoining the Staff team. Sure he can do these side things like trainings, tryouts, simulations, but what would bolster his ability to do these things? Staff powers. It is incredibly difficult to actually help the server out and host what you want to host when you can’t really do it yourself. Any cert trainer knows the pain of having to call on a Staff member to set up every little thing they need for their training. It’s a pain.
I think, as a final closing note. It’s wise to acknowledge that yes- Archer did some damage, most unintentional, but he did this damage as an Administrator, and a member of High Staff. Something I think everybody has kept in the back of their minds but not fully realized is that Archer will not be starting out as an Administrator if he is accepted. He will be starting as a Trial Moderator. The entire point of the Trial Moderator position is too see if he is truly capable of these responsibilities- and I say, what the fucking hell, let’s just full send it and see if he has truly changed- or if he’s just the same old Archer that withered away and left the server.
As for my personal standpoint:
Neutral.
I would +1 when you get quite a few more hours.
Ohh boy. This is a pretty interesting thread.
Archer is someone I've had quite a few issues with in the past; what feels like hundreds of mini-conflicts and a love-hate relationship. That being said, I have quite a few opinions on him.
During the Jedi shenanigans a year ago where it was looking like we were all about to tear each other a new one- there is one thing most people couldn't deny. Archer is a capable individual. Most of our issues stemmed from the fact that he had too many responsibilities, he was Admin, Grandmaster, High Command, Shadow Company CO, Head Recon, and a Republic Commando. There's no fucking way a guy like Archer can divvy up his 4-5 hours a day and manage all of that.
I'll be honest, I don't remember much of those times. I've moved on. It's ancient history at this point, but I think the things I remember most is that Archer, back then- for all his faults, had good intentions. He wanted the best for the server, he wanted the best for Jedi, he wanted the best for Shadow Company. He wanted to showcase his capabilities as a leader and player- but there was one thing holding Archer back from actually helping out all of those positions.
Archer is stubborn, it's both his blessing and his curse. Archer will run himself into a wall- sometimes pursuing the wrong solution to a problem until more than two people tell him that what he's doing isn't helping, he's done things that he regrets the next day. Yet with that stubbornness, some genuinely good things have happened for the server. Not many, but a few things. That being said, I really respect the fact that Archer has decided to pursue Staff once more- with almost all the cards stacked against him.
Archer reached Admin back then for a reason. Whatever that reason is, I can trust that he was at least a competent Moderator, otherwise he would've never gotten past Moderator. It's obvious at some point- he did some exceptional work.
I might as well address a few of the things in this forum with my own perspective.
Archer being manipulative? I have never experienced it. To put it bluntly- Archer has always been blunt, straightforward and to the point. Archer for better or worse has almost always tried to play the mediator in any single conflict I've seen him involved in.
Did Archer drive a few situations to his advantage using his authority and power? Yeah, he did. I mean at one point Shadow Company was discount SF, at the dismay of SF.
Archer is destructive, and on occasion, toxic. Perhaps so- but I think something to note is people can undergo some good positive change in only a few months. Personalities and life attitudes can change in weeks. People are tricky and hard to fully understand- that’s the entire thing of Human Psychology. Things can easily influence people, whether subtly or noticeably.
Archer is inactive. This leads me into my next point that almost nobody has had the opportunity to see if Archer has changed. Why? He has not been on as much as he should be if he is attempting to obtain a Staff position. If you check Gametracker he has 21.28 hours in the two months the Gametracker has been up. Not even a day of activity.
Making a positive difference without Staff Powers. Right now, I’m asking myself, what other avenues can Archer take in terms of helping out the server. I think he has almost exhausted every single route of expansion except for rejoining the Staff team. Sure he can do these side things like trainings, tryouts, simulations, but what would bolster his ability to do these things? Staff powers. It is incredibly difficult to actually help the server out and host what you want to host when you can’t really do it yourself. Any cert trainer knows the pain of having to call on a Staff member to set up every little thing they need for their training. It’s a pain.
I think, as a final closing note. It’s wise to acknowledge that yes- Archer did some damage, most unintentional, but he did this damage as an Administrator, and a member of High Staff. Something I think everybody has kept in the back of their minds but not fully realized is that Archer will not be starting out as an Administrator if he is accepted. He will be starting as a Trial Moderator. The entire point of the Trial Moderator position is too see if he is truly capable of these responsibilities- and I say, what the fucking hell, let’s just full send it and see if he has truly changed- or if he’s just the same old Archer that withered away and left the server.
As for my personal standpoint:
Neutral.
I would +1 when you get quite a few more hours.
BGE Maine
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Archer
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I do apologize for the lack of activity. Things have been rough for me medically lately. Been to the ER twice in the last 2-3 months and I've had roughly 18 surgeries in the past 12 months. I will do my best to be more active.
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For the most part, this covers all the same points I wanted to make. However, I'm giving this application a -1. I worked alongside Archer as an admin and in all honesty it was not an enjoyable time. I have no personal issues with the man whatsoever. My response is entirely based on working with him on the staff team.
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I don't have an extensive memory of Archer as a staff member. From every experience I can recall having with him, he proved to be a competent, level-headed staff member, and I could see why he was given the rank of admin in those circumstances. I never had a negative experience with him either as a staff member or as a player in the community. He did his job well, given the circumstances it entails on this server. He seemed to be one of the steadier hands on the staff team back when he was one, and that's something this server needs with how volatile things can often get between players or even other staff. I think he deserves a second chance. I believe anyone this willing to go out of their way and to genuinely improve does. Permanently shutting someone out of the process in this manner after what it seems are minor altercations doesn't seem justified.
I'm not going to harp on the point since many others have already made it, but this is a common standard on many other staff apps that seems to be selectively implemented with some individuals but not with others: people can change. Several of these -1's are based on outdated and it seems inaccurate or hearsay accounts of Archer's tenure that do no service to the argument that he is a bad staff member. Also, as Flare said, a lot of the apprehension being voiced toward Archer is based on his time as an admin. Even if these arguments are valid, admin is the literal highest rank for a PR staff member besides Riddick. You don't know if Archer will ever reach admin again. He may just stay as a mod during his tenure. Even if he doesn't, this server and its staff are more than capable of crossing that bridge when it gets there. If not, that reticence to even concede that he could act differently this time when so many others have given the right circumstances says more to me about the staff -1'ing this app than it does Archer's ability to effectively moderate. Not every comment is being made in this vain, mind you, as some of the points being made like Evan's are valid. However, it seems to be a common thread.
I don't have an extensive memory of Archer as a staff member. From every experience I can recall having with him, he proved to be a competent, level-headed staff member, and I could see why he was given the rank of admin in those circumstances. I never had a negative experience with him either as a staff member or as a player in the community. He did his job well, given the circumstances it entails on this server. He seemed to be one of the steadier hands on the staff team back when he was one, and that's something this server needs with how volatile things can often get between players or even other staff. I think he deserves a second chance. I believe anyone this willing to go out of their way and to genuinely improve does. Permanently shutting someone out of the process in this manner after what it seems are minor altercations doesn't seem justified.
I'm not going to harp on the point since many others have already made it, but this is a common standard on many other staff apps that seems to be selectively implemented with some individuals but not with others: people can change. Several of these -1's are based on outdated and it seems inaccurate or hearsay accounts of Archer's tenure that do no service to the argument that he is a bad staff member. Also, as Flare said, a lot of the apprehension being voiced toward Archer is based on his time as an admin. Even if these arguments are valid, admin is the literal highest rank for a PR staff member besides Riddick. You don't know if Archer will ever reach admin again. He may just stay as a mod during his tenure. Even if he doesn't, this server and its staff are more than capable of crossing that bridge when it gets there. If not, that reticence to even concede that he could act differently this time when so many others have given the right circumstances says more to me about the staff -1'ing this app than it does Archer's ability to effectively moderate. Not every comment is being made in this vain, mind you, as some of the points being made like Evan's are valid. However, it seems to be a common thread.
Eagle Nation Gaming
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Archer
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I am bumping this cause my medical issues have calmed down for the moment and I am able to once again get on the server
Get better activity, then I’ll make this a +1. For now, it’s -1
I try to find reasons to +1. However, it is hard, right now. I do not want to +1 and if you do get accepted, I do not want this to be a situation where we currently struggle with right now. That problem is that staff are going on extended LOA's and cannot get on the server. It takes up spots and we cannot afford to waste them on people who are not able to be active for more than 3 times a week, let alone once a week.
Get your activity up and keep it somewhat constant, and I will +1 this. You are a great friend and a greater person, but that does not mean I am gonna have a bias, and I hope you would have the same mindset towards me.
But for now.
-1
Get your activity up and keep it somewhat constant, and I will +1 this. You are a great friend and a greater person, but that does not mean I am gonna have a bias, and I hope you would have the same mindset towards me.
But for now.
-1